Stefano Innocenzi: Absolutely, if you look at the development of renewable hydrogen, we have a little bit the issue that every new industry has, which is the chicken and egg question. So, a lot of companies need clear subsidies, quotas and clear frameworks – as well as a clear competitive cost for renewable power and electrolyzers in order to make the investment, but if you don’t start you’ll never get to an economy of scale.
Dominique Rouge: First, we need large projects and the mass manufacturing and the large-volume manufacturing, and that’s the challenge we’re addressing with our partnership where we’re joining the best of two worlds. µÂÖÝÆË¿ËÔÚÏß has strength in manufacturing, industrial capabilities and technology. And Air Liquide has strong experience in electrolyzer operations.
We operate more than 30 electrolyzers worldwide, not all giga-scale electrolyzers, but quite a lot of them. We already operate the largest PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) electrolyzer in the world, we’re installing and constructing 30 megawatts in Oberhausen, Germany (not so far from here), with µÂÖÝÆË¿ËÔÚÏß technology. So, we can feed our operations experience back into the development of projects. And we’re engaged in very large projects.
We want to bring up our electrolysis capacity to 3 gigawatt before 2030, and we’re totally committed to that. , which has strong support from the French state and was the opening for our partnership.
So, I think we’re all set, the best of two worlds making it happen to resolve this chicken and egg situation.